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Marilyn Janette (Everart) Kowalski
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EMAILS FROM A FRIEND
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Editor Don Smith’s Note: I discovered a Green relative on an internet
forum in April, 2004. Her name was Mary Foster Ludvigsen. She was interested in
finding more out about the Self family. Francis Edward “Dusty” Green’s mother
was Fannie Marie Bray (Green). Fannie was sister of John Wesley Bray and John
Wesley Bray was the great grandfather of Mary Foster Ludvigsen. That’s how we are
related and how we are fairly distant cousins. Mary had been sharing emails
with another relative who was interested in the Green family. Her name is
Marilyn Janette (Everhart) Kowalski. Her husband, Jerome “Jerry” Carl
Kowalski, is the grandson of Willard Davis “Willie/Will” Green, brother of
Francis Edward “Dusty” Green and Francis Green was the father of Elsie Elnora
Green Self. We have been emailing genealogy information back and forth. Below
are several of Marilyn’s emails which have a mountain of genealogy
information about the Green family. The only changes I’ve made to the emails
is added information for clarity. For example, I spell out “
Hi, Don Elsie Self's father Francis Green was my husband’s great Uncle. Elsie was a cousin to my mother in law. I have a copy of the letter that Elsie wrote to a relative in 1949, if I recall the date correctly. Cousin Mary forwarded your e-mails to her to us. In her letter, Elsie mentions her husband being a contractor. I wonder why he never finished his schooling to be a Doctor? Do you have any pictures of this family of Selfs? We don’t. What I also find interesting is Elsie's name, Elsie Elnora. My husband’s Grandfather was Willard Davis Green, brother to Francis. Willard named 2 of his daughters Elsie and Elnora. Where Francis had Elsie Elnora. Why did they both choose the same name for daughters? Reckon we will never know? I’m glad for the information about Elsie and
her family. I am interested in just that line of the Self family. I appreciate
your e-mail to Mary and her being able to forward it on to us. I will share
the info with my husband’s Aunt (Aunt Minnie Lucille Green, daughter of
Willard Davis Green)). Elsie was her cousin. She recalls writing to her,
but doesn’t recall ever meeting her. We live in Would you be interested in a copy of Elsie's letter to Uncle Frank? I just have the one letter, but she does give info on her family. Thanks again for sharing. (Editor’s Note: I sent Marilyn the Self Family Genealogy CD) Take care. Marilyn Kowalski
Marilyn’s Email of April 4, 2004: Hi, Don Thanks for the info you sent for Elsie Green Self. I will try to get a copy of Elsie's letter mailed to you on Tuesday. We have been busy here and time seems to fly by. Jerry and I have 3 children and 6 grandkids. We had a family party today for 1 granddaughter and our 2 sons. Things should slow down now for a little while! I am tickled to get the info for Elsie and will gladly share my info on the Greens. Jerry and I were married in November of 1961.
We have 2 sons and 1 daughter.1 son is married, 1 is single and our daughter
is married and has 4 children. Our younger son and daughter in law have twin
girls who were 2 in November, 2004. I was born in Hannibal, Jerry’s sister’s (His sister Mabel Ann
Kowalski) oldest son-in-law, Dean Edwards, is a math teacher. Dean
and his wife Gwen have been living near Kenya, I will have to look for the original. I'm "bad" at looking at a picture and not always putting it back where I had it. I am fairly sure I have a picture of Francis Green. I will send a copy when I find it! I also have one of his mother Fanny. Well, I’d better send this on and make myself
a list of things to do after work tomorrow. Copy the letter and look for the
picture of Take care Marilyn Kowalski
Marilyn’s Email of April 6, 2004: Hi, Don Sorry I've been longer than I planned to, in looking for and finding this picture of Francis Green. I'm going in town in a few minutes and make a copy to mail to you by regular mail. The Kmart store in town has a photo copy machine that makes good reprints on photo paper. I am in hopes you can make copies from it. I'll e-mail you a copy of the back of this photo too. My husband’s Aunt gave the photo to me. I've shared it with the family. I'm thankful to have it to share with others. I'll also e-mail a copy his mother photo, and I’ll send it by regular mail also. My husband has 3 sisters; and I think one
looks a bit like the grandma, Fanny Green. Mary (Mary Ludvigsen), who
lives in Take care Marilyn and Jerry K.
Marilyn’s Email of April 8, 2004: Hi, Don Fanny was Francis' mother. Sorry I never got that said. Glad you got the pictures OK. I copied the 2 in town. I'll try to get the copies of the pictures in the mail tomorrow. I have copies from a snap shot of Jerry’s grandpa and another brother, Willard Davis Green and John Maxwell “Jack” Green. Willard was my husband’s grandfather. I'll share what info I have on the Greens. It just may take me awhile to get it copied. I don't have it on the computer. Maybe one of these days I will manage to do that! I enjoy tracing our "lines" and tend to "jump" from "tree" to "tree". One of Jerry’s nieces is getting married
(2nd marriage) in June in I'll send this on and get busy here. We just got home from baby setting the twins. Our daughter in law had to leave for work before our son got home from work, so we baby sat about an hour and a half. The girls play well together and are easy to watch. Take care Marilyn, Jerry
Marilyn’s Email of April 9, 2004: Good Morning Don I have some info written down on paper, but this is from memory. I'll mail it this a.m. anyway, and then do another listing when I have my info handy. I am enclosing a snap shot of Jerry’s grandfather, Willard Davis Green and another brother of his, John Maxwell Green. John was called "Jack" and was visiting Will. They hadn't seen each other in years. I forget if Aunt Minnie said 30 or 40! A very long time though. This makes one other brother, George Green, to someday find about his relatives and maybe a picture of him too. George died in an explosion of a boiler while he worked at a prison in Georgia, time and place unknown. Aunt Minnie is Jerry’s mom’s sister, last of that line of the Greens. Willard was her father. Davis and Maxwell are also family names. Willard’s grandfather was Maxwell Bray and Maxwell's father in law was Dave Davis. It will take me awhile, but I will share this info I have with you. I don’t have it on computer, so have to copy what I have. Right now, I need to finish getting ready for work. Take care Marilyn, Jerry
Marilyn’s Email of April 13, 2004: Hi, Don We received the CD and it works fine. I am surprised at all you have on it! I haven't begun to look at it all, but have seen quite a bit. I was tickled to see the info on Francis Green. I didn’t have his birth date or death date or that he was called ‘Dusty”. Do you know who the other 2 wives were? I thought I had a copy of Elsie’s letter in my book for the Greens, but I have taken it out and will have to look for it or a copy of it! I will mail it as soon as I find it. Willard Davis Green was born May 31, 1860 Erie
county, I will have to look up ALL my info and send it correctly to you, plus I have copied pictures from Mary of Maxwell Bray and his father in law, Dave Davis. Well, time to send this on and write to my cousin too. She's probably wondering why she hasn’t heard from me in weeks! Thanks again for the CD of family info! Bet it took you awhile to make it! Are you married? Any kids? We have the 3 children, and 6 grandkids, 4 girls and 2 boys. Three of the 4 girls were born premature. Maranda is Diana's oldest. (Note: Diana is Marilyn’s
daughter, Diana Marie (Kowalski) Sigmund) and was born Take care Marilyn, Jerry
Marilyn’s Email of April 14, 2004: Hi, yes, the twins are Kaitlin Nicole Kowalski
and Alexis Breanna Kowalski. They were born on My mother’s mother (grandmother) was named Etta Myrtle Howard. She married John Calvin Libbee. My mom was Mary Etta Libbee. I always wished that my middle name was Janetta! Ha. Oh well! I recall when I found Mary's (Mary Ludvigsin)
query on the Greens’ forum at My dad’s side of the family have lived in the
same area of I will look again for Elsie's letter. I know its here! Just not sure where at the moment ! Good Night ! Marilyn, Jerry K.
Marilyn’s Email of September 7, 2004: Hi, Don Guess what! I finally found a copy of Elsie Self's letter to Uncle Frank Green. It’s a copy; still haven't discovered where I "tucked" the original letter! I will copy the copy tomorrow and mail it then. It’s an interesting letter to read again. Hope things are good with you. We are OK here. Jerry’s father, John Frank Kowalski, passed away the 12th of July. He would have been 95 the 6th of August. We are expecting another grandchild in November. Our son (Jerome Carl Kowalski, Jr.) and his wife are expecting their 3rd. They have the twin girls who will be 3 the 12th of November. This baby is due the 21st of November. My husband’s mother was Martha Green Kowalski, cousin to Elsie and sister of Frank Green (Francis Willard “Frank” Green). Martha died in 1961 of heart problems. Well, I will send this on and copy the letter tomorrow. I will try our scanner first. If that doesn’t work, I'll take the letter to town and copy it for you. It’s 3 pages long, written on a regular size writing tablet, not the computer size paper we seem to be using nowadays. Take care Marilyn Kowalski
Marilyn’s Email #1 of (Editor’s Note: The following three emails were in response to an email I sent Marilyn as to the identity of “Cousin Frank” to whom Grandma Elsie Elnora Green Self wrote a three page letter. I correctly guessed that it was Francis Willard Green, an uncle of her husband.
Hi, I wonder if I have confused you more than I have helped?
Willard Davis Green, John Maxwell Green, Francis Green, and George Green were
all brothers. Willard Married Ollie Mae Yours. We are really unsure of the
correct spelling of her last name. She was born in Sept of 1880. Her mother
died when she was small and her father left her with a neighbor and took off
for who knows where. Or perhaps he intended to return and never did.
She was raised in Back to Willard and Ollie. They had 7 children: Althea Emmaline (Aldie) Elnora Alice (Norie) Elsie Mae (Elsie) Francie Willard (Frank) Martha Ann (Martha) Leslie Howard (Leslie or Les ) Minnie Lucile (Minnie)
Aunt Aldie had 14 children, but 7 died young, 4 from scarlet fever I believe. Her husband was Edward Kautzer. Aunt Elsie was married twice. 1st was to William Strebe. He was killed; he was up in a tree, hunting and someone shot him. Claimed they thought he was a bear. They had 1 daughter. Aunt Elsie married Albert Rogers next. I'd have to look to see how many kids they had. There was Nina, Lucy, Carla, seems like 2 other daughters, and 2 or 3 sons. There was George and Jimmy. Never realized I couldn’t name them all! ha! Aunt Norie married Elmer Kautzer, brother to Edward Kautzer. They had 5 kids: Marie, Josephine, Sue, Ken and Keith.Wrong order of birth but right names! Frank married Joyce Rogers;
they had: Anna Mae, Frances, Terry, Kathy, Sally. Martha married John Frank Kowalski they had 6 kids; they lost 1 as a baby. There was: Jerome Carl, Esther Ellen, Leslie Arthur, Arvilla Ann (deceased), Mabel Ann and Caroline Florance. Leslie married Eva Appel, again, not sure of kids - sorta lost track of them. There was one girl, Martha. and one 1 boy, Steve, died a few years ago. There is a Sammy and a Howie seems like there is one more boy, yes Willie. Mxxxxx married Henry Arthur
Becker and they had 2 children, Robert David (“Bob/Bobby’) and Judy Lee. Bob
lives in George Green is said to have
worked in a prison in I will try to write soon and give you dates, etc and also more info on the older ancestors. Night, Marilyn
Marilyn’s Email #2 of Hi, I thought this was the easiest way to see that you shared e-mail addresses. Zoe, Don Smith is a relative on Francis Greens line of the Green Family. As you are on John Maxwell’s line. John and Francis were brothers to my husband’s grandfather, Willard Davis Green. Willard was also known as W.D. Green in "write ups" in the local paper here. I thought you may enjoy sharing info, and I would enjoy being in the threesome too! Zoe, I haven;t written to Mary in ages, so haven’t gotten to tell her, or you, that Jerry’s father, John Frank Kowalski died July 12 of this year. His first wife, was Martha Green, daughter to Willard. Martha was my husband’s mother. We also are expecting another Grandchild in November. I am in hopes of a boy. But mostly I hope that all goes OK! My reason for a grandson is to carry on the Kowalski name. My father in law was an only son. My husband has 1 brother who never married or had any children. We have 2 sons, only one married, and father of twin girls. Our single son doesn’t have any children, so if this baby is a boy, the Kowalski name goes on. Other wise, our branch is drying up! To carry on the name I mean. Supper time. I'll send this on and it would be good to hear from you both. It was Good to hear from you today, Don. Marilyn Kowalski
Marilyn’s Email #3 of Good Evening , Don I can see where you are confused! Yes, Cousin
Frank was a brother to my husband’s mother, Martha. He was Frances
Willard Green. I'll have to look up his birth/death dates. He was named for
Willard Davis Green and Willard’s brother Francis. I can never seem to
remember which “Francis” spelling is correct for males/females! Francis
Willard Green also has a daughter Frances Green!Francis Willard was always
called “Frank”. I have never heard of "Your" Francis being called
“Dusty” by the relatives here. It’s good to know to add that name to his info
I have on him. Thanks. There was also a brother of Francis Willard Green who
was Leslie Green. Jerry has a brother Leslie but he is Kowalski. My
husband Jerry’s sister has a son Leslie; he's a Txxxxx. Names seem to
repeat! Willard Davis Green is I'll try to get you a tree written out this week end! I can’t think right now of who goes with who! But my husband’s Uncle is the "Cousin Frank" in the letter. Uncle Frank was born in 1905 I think, and died in 1950 or so. He was allergic to bee stings, and got stung in the woods and passed out. The tree cutting crew threw cold water on him to bring him to, not knowing about the bee allergy. Anyway, between it all, he died. Probably more from the bee sting than the water. Several in the family are allergic to bee stings. It’s good to hear from you. I also have an e-mail address from a descendent of John Maxwell. I'll look it up and sent it to you. I haven’t written to her in ages and never e-mailed her much even. So, I’m not sure if the address is correct or not. I don’t have any connection to George Green family. I tried to see what I could tie together from your Elsie's letter, as she gives some info for them, but had no luck finding anyone. Take care Marilyn K.
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